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Old November-30th,2006, 08:03 PM
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Riiiiiiiiiight...

Is this really how Cons think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O_aUum77Ek These "facts" sound kinda retarded. But I'm sure that he verified his info... I think this guy should look up the word "Liberal" in the Dictionary. Oh wait the dictionary is probably a Liberal publication just tryin' to support the terrorists... Jesus Christ was a liberal who called for the redistribution of wealth... Christ was a hippie Liberal!!!

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Old November-30th,2006, 09:09 PM
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Come on man he spiced it up with a nice character generator does it really matter that he's reading, nice chin
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Old November-30th,2006, 09:28 PM
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Jesus Christ was a liberal who called for the redistribution of wealth...
Negative Ghostrider.

He told his 12 Diciples to give up all of their Earthly possessions to follow him. This was a show of faith and to kept the 12 Disciples from becoming distracted from their work.

He never taught the masses to "redistribute" their wealth. He said to tithe, aka give "a tenth" of your earnings. He taught how to wisely manage your money. He also taught making money isn't a bad thing. "The root of all evil is the love of money".
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Old November-30th,2006, 09:32 PM
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LOL the pattern is full
Actually he never said to tithe either... the church is the one who implemented that
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Old November-30th,2006, 10:18 PM
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I will say it's open to your interpretation of what he says in the Bible:

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Some Protestant denominations cite Matthew 23:23 as support for tithing.

Away with you, you pettifogging Pharisee lawyers! You give to God a tenth of herbs, like mint, dill, and cumin, but the important duties of the Law -- judgement, mercy, honesty -- you have neglected. Yet these you ought to have performed, without neglecting the others.
(Albright & Mann, Matthew, Anchor Bible, Vol. 26 (1971))


and its parallel Luke 11:42

Woe to you, Pharisees! You tithe mint and rue and every edible herb but disregard justice and the love of God. These were rather the things one should practice, without neglecting the others.
(Fitzmyer, Luke, Anchor Bible, Vol.l, 28A (1985))


Because of Jesus' specific mention of tithe in this passage, it is often felt that he thereby gave his endorsement to the practice of tithing in general and specifically to tithing herbs like mint, dill and cumin. Some scholars disagree, however, pointing out that Jesus was simply obeying Mosaic law as an obedient Jew.
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Old November-30th,2006, 10:33 PM
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Post Give up worldly possessions...

Hmmmm...Sounds to me like redistribution of wealth. If we all gave up our worldly possessions we essentially level out the playing field and wealth is no more. Enough religious bantor. I'm sorry I even brought up Jesus. The scriptures are entirely too open to interpretation. And keep in mind that the scriptures were actually written way after Christ's death, and if you recall the phone game stories that are told from person to person vary thus the Scriptures may have been tweeked. We humans are not perfect... Oh yeah, I don't think Christ wanted us all to be "Christians" think about it, he never said one thing about it. He wanted people to be better Jews! But seriously I will say no more of religion. BLAH!

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Old November-30th,2006, 10:41 PM
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Don't get me started on the Bible, I haven't attended a church in years because of most churches "Doctrines".

But I disagree with you on the redistribution of wealth, the Communists tried and it failed horribly. It's good in theory but I don't think it can ever be put into practical use. No motivation for effort and most people can't handle that, among many other human shortcomings. IMHO.
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You brought up his name to support your views now that chubby and his views are no longer in the spotlight and the method was disproved you want to dismiss bringing Jesus up... I see how it is... lol j/k.
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But I disagree with you on the redistribution of wealth, the Communists tried and it failed horribly. It's good in theory but I don't think it can ever be put into practical use. No motivation for effort and most people can't handle that, among many other human shortcomings. IMHO.
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Actually communism worked...

under Lenin. Stalin bastardized it. Social Democracy is all I'm saying it works for Canada and almost all of Europe. People should stop trying to come up with reasons not to help others and give up there money. I refer you to the third world. Is it their fault that they are poor? Not really, it's just that many of those countries don't have anything to offer the "Global" economy or if they do it is controlled by tyrannical governments that provide us or our allies with cheap oil or diamonds. I refer you to Darfur and Congo. We say to them aww your situation sucks, then change the channel. We are desensitized to other's plight. Unless it directly affects us we really don't care. America is becoming more and more greedy and we are blind to it. The media is perpetuating this calamity!

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Old November-30th,2006, 10:56 PM
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I'm quitting the conversation at this point. Communism failed in Russia, and China is quickly becoming a capitalist nation. If you want to count Cuba as a success, well I'll give them a D for effort.

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Old November-30th,2006, 10:58 PM
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Cuba is smarter than the US!

Hmmm 99% literacy rate, and one of the best healthcare systems in the world... Damn that sucks! I like the quote Gomer! lol

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Gomer...

If you ever go back and read what Lenin did for Russia, then it worked. The people lived in better standards than the Czarist empire that they first lived in. There was no "democratic" period between the Czar and Socialism. The current ruler of Russia began giving all of his claimed terrorities constitutions and let them live democratically, however nothing was happening for Russia. A group of men, calling themselves the Intelligentsia (that were actually a large group of military officiers) came up with ways to help them get their own constitution. The "Decemberists" came about when on a memorial day in Decmeber, the soldiers came out and yelled "Honor the Czar, Honor a constitution" basically. Then came gun fire and all that, but Lenin and his group finally ran a coup d'etat and took over. People weren't bound to small bits of farm land and astronomical taxes. They were given more freedoms and the bureacracy that the Czar had tried to enforce was broken.

Basically... it's similar to America right now. Maybe we need our own Lenin.
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Old December-2nd,2006, 06:33 PM
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Right on weheartourhive!!

Uh oh someone who know their stuff!
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